Curse

Mac_Eanruig · Dec 02, 2010, 09:04 AM // 09:04

I'm a huge fan of the Dragon Swords....they are IMO one of the best looking in the game. On my main toon....i run the full set.
Firey Dragon
Icy Dragon
and Vamp Dragon.

But that still leaves 1 equip spot open....
and after getting the full set it hit me that for
a W/R poison is one of the best conditions you can use.

And the VDS skin is awsome. I thought if we had a Poisonous Dragon Sword
(green Flame,) that would be very usefull and would fit into the Nick the Traveler bit the same way with the VDS "Necromancer Mune often offers these to me in trade."

Could be turned to "Ranger XXX often offers these to me in trade."
or even better..."Keiran Thackery often offers these to me in trade."

Just a thought. it'd be cool to have one more in the set to kind of round it off.

Olle · Dec 02, 2010, 10:07 AM // 10:07

/signed, not anything that takes to long to create, as the skin already exists, and a green flame would rock!

Elmindreda Farshaw · Dec 02, 2010, 10:23 AM // 10:23

/signed
would be cool, also make it physical damage so we can use it with 100b/MoP spike.

Tripolityx · Dec 02, 2010, 10:25 AM // 10:25

Pink flame for butterflies which bites orks to death \o/!!

Xsiriss · Dec 02, 2010, 10:49 AM // 10:49

Or just let us dye the flame onan FDS too?

MithranArkanere · Dec 02, 2010, 12:31 PM // 12:31

Let's see... sword prefixes...
Barbed
Crippling
Cruel
Poisonous
Ebon
Fiery X
Icy X
Shocking
Furious
Sundering
Vampiric X
Zealous

So... it seems there are some left.
I'd go for Zealous first.
Purple tongue for 'chaos', and you get a Soulstealer Dragon Sword.

Spiritz · Dec 02, 2010, 01:03 PM // 13:03

some weapon mods id prefer if they sort of did what they say - eg firey , shocking actually s small amount of dmg as the hit would include fire dmg .I mean zeleous/vampiric do extra function so why couldnt poisonous sword inflict poison dmg just for a few secs .

kedde · Dec 02, 2010, 01:18 PM // 13:18

Just use texmod?

newbie_of_doom · Dec 02, 2010, 02:24 PM // 14:24

Ye, we definitely need a green posonious dragon sword. Everyone knows W/R is the best!!!!!!!!1!!!!1!

Captain Bulldozer · Dec 02, 2010, 05:20 PM // 17:20

Am I the only one who thinks the skin on these swords is... well... kinda ugly? Compare it to say, a flaming Gladius, or a host of other nicer sword skins... changing the color of the "blade" doesn't make it much more appealing imo.

NerfHerder · Dec 02, 2010, 05:22 PM // 17:22

/signed

It would be neat if we could get a special modable Dragon Sword that changed color depending on the mod applied. A special animation for shocking or others would be cool. But that might be too much work to implement. I would even be happy if a few mods like Icy and Shocking shared the blue color for instance.

Deviant Angel · Dec 02, 2010, 07:57 PM // 19:57

/signed

I wouldn't mind seeing other flavors of the dragon swords. I've always wanted one with green or purple flames!

NerfHerder's idea would be pretty neat as well.

Mac_Eanruig · Dec 02, 2010, 09:49 PM // 21:49

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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

Let's see... sword prefixes...
Barbed
Crippling
Cruel
Poisonous
Ebon
Fiery X
Icy X
Shocking
Furious
Sundering
Vampiric X
Zealous

So... it seems there are some left.
I'd go for Zealous first.
Purple tongue for 'chaos', and you get a Soulstealer Dragon Sword.

I could go for a Chaos Dragon Sword with purple flame. World work the same a VDS but insted of vamping HP it would leech E instead. that might make Illusionary Weaponry actually useful and fun again. IMO. use the same stats as VDS.

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Choas Dragon Sword
Chaos Dmg: 15-22 (Requires 9 Swordsmanship)
Dmg + 15% (While Health is Above 50%)
Energy gain on hit: 3
Energy regeneration -1
Armor +7 (vs. Physical Dmg.)
"Gwen Thackery often gives these to me in trade."
-Nick

Or This: Which might be even better with +15 vs Hex.

Quote:

Choas Dragon Sword
Chaos Dmg: 15-22 (Requires 9 Swordsmanship)
Dmg + 15% (vs. Hexed foes)
Energy gain on hit: 3
Energy regeneration -1
Armor +7 (vs. Physical Dmg.)
"Gwen Thackery often gives these to me in trade."
-Nick

Which is almost the same stats for Kaolin Blade.

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Kaolin Blade
Chaos Dmg: 15-22 (Requires 9 Swordsmanship)
Dmg + 15% (While Health is Above 50%)
Energy gain on hit: 1
Energy regeneration -1
Armor +7 (vs. Physical Dmg.)

The diff. behind this sword is the +3 E drain instead of the +1 of Kaolin Blade.

So it's workable. Change the skin on the VDS to a Purple flame....
use stats from Kaolin Blade....bump up e drain to 3. & Vola!
Chaos/Soulstealing Dragon Sword. and would be an awsome match for the Poisonous Dragon Sword. we'd get 1 from Keriean Thackery and one from Gwen Thackery. And it's be a nice tie in with the GW beyond...

Anyone wanna take a stab at stats for a Poisonous?

Quote:

Poisonous Dragon Sword
Slashing Dmg: 15-22 (Requires 9 Swordsmanship)
Lengthens Poision duration on foes by 33% (Stacking)
Armor +7 (vs. Elemental Dmg.)
"Keiran Thackery often offers these to me in trade."
-Nick

Or could work like this:

Quote:

Poisonous Dragon Sword
Slashing Dmg: 15-22 (Requires 9 Swordsmanship)
Poisons foes on hit (5 seconds)
Armor +7 (vs. Elemental Dmg.)
"Keiran Thackery often offers these to me in trade."
-Nick

I'm not too keen on the idea of others. These are special items...that'd be over doing it a bit imo. a barbed dragon sword? i dunno. and how could that tie in with story @ all? With the PDS & CDS...we could tie in to Gwen & Kerian in GW beyond.

If anyone here has the skin for VDS from the GW .dat file please let me know how to get a copy. I may take a stab at photo shop. I've been painting skins on pilots & WWII planes for IL-2 Strumovik for years. might not be to hard to reskin it myself and send it to the devs.

Mac_Eanruig · Dec 02, 2010, 09:56 PM // 21:56

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Originally Posted by Captain Bulldozer

Am I the only one who thinks the skin on these swords is... well... kinda ugly? Compare it to say, a flaming Gladius, or a host of other nicer sword skins... changing the color of the "blade" doesn't make it much more appealing imo.

I love the flaming Galdius. I've been looking for a perfect one forever.
No luck.

But i'd note that it does same Fire dmg instead of slashing.
Same as with the Glacial Blade with does Cold dmg.

The one problem with the idea of a posionous dragon sword is.....
well....what kind of dmg would it do? I'm thinking slashing.
But i'm open to ideas.

**Marty Silverblade** · Dec 02, 2010, 10:06 PM // 22:06

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Originally Posted by Mac_Eanruig

I could go for a Chaos Dragon Sword with purple flame. World work the same a VDS but insted of vamping HP it would leech E instead. that might make Illusionary Weaponry actually useful and fun again. IMO. use the same stats as VDS.

You don't hit when using IW. Therefore any non +enchant/+e/+health/+al mods will do nothing.

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Or This: Which might be even better with +15 vs Hex.

Chaos damage on a non-caster weapon would not be a good idea. It makes sense with what you're trying to do but it doesn't fit in with what's currently available.

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The diff. behind this sword is the +3 E drain instead of the +1 of Kaolin Blade.

That's going to be massively overpowered. You get Warrior's Endurance (an Elite Warrior skill that requires 13 Strength to maintain) for free. I believe they had +2/-1 in beta but they found that was too powerful and changed it to +1/-1 for release.

PS: I recommend against suggesting new weapon mods. More work for Anet = less chance of actually getting what you want.

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Or could work like this:

Again, new weapon mods isn't going to happen. The Poisonous Sword hilt is what you're going to get if this is implemented. Free poison is possibly overpowered, depending on how it's implemented. Apologies for being a killjoy but if you actually want something out of this you habe to be realistic.

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If anyone here has the skin for VDS from the GW .dat file please let me know how to get a copy. I may take a stab at photo shop. I've been painting skins on pilots & WWII planes for IL-2 Strumovik for years. might not be to hard to reskin it myself and send it to the devs.

I'm pretty sure that's not going to work. I read somewhere that if the devs accept/implement something based on something not developed by Anet staff they have to worry about copyright or some other legal crap (I've heard this means Anet are legally obligated to not read this forum). Thus, sending them stuff to implement is probably going to get ignored.

Anyway, if all you want is a weapon skin, you can just TexMod it like previous people have mentioned. People have already made pink FDS's; there's one on the Wiki.

Mac_Eanruig · Dec 02, 2010, 10:06 PM // 22:06

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Originally Posted by kedde

Just use texmod?

Have no idea what that is.

5 years in on GW i doubt i'll start using mods at this point.

i watched one of the best PC sims ever made turned into crapola
over night with mods/hacks. Nothing like a BF-109 zipping around doing UFO batman turns while shooting down 12 P-47's with 8 mk108 30mm cannons from 2 miles away to give you that warm and fuzzy gaming feeling.

So if there's any hacking or modding going on in GW i don't wanna know about it. Ignorance is bliss.

**Marty Silverblade** · Dec 02, 2010, 10:10 PM // 22:10

TexMod isn't actually a mod (though I suppose it depends on your definition). All it does is modify the texture of something. So if you had a red apple, you could use TexMod to change it to a green apple, or a blue sparkly apple, or a glowing apple, etc. You could not make a second apple, change it into a banana, or make the apple dance. Anet is fine with TexMod but they aren't responsible if you screw something up with it.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/TexMod

Exhibit A · Dec 02, 2010, 10:13 PM // 22:13

Well, the Vampiric Dragon Sword does slashing, so a poisonous one probably would. Also, you should keep in mind that the VDS and IDS from Nick have no upgrades aside from the prefix.

I would like to see:
Poisonous Dragon Sword: sickly green flame

Zealous Dragon Sword: purple flame

Shocking/Ebon Dragon Swords: light yellow/brown flames

Spookii · Dec 02, 2010, 10:21 PM // 22:21

Definitely a cool idea!

/signed

Mac_Eanruig · Dec 02, 2010, 10:49 PM // 22:49

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Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade

I'm pretty sure that's not going to work. I read somewhere that if the devs accept/implement something based on something not developed by Anet staff they have to worry about copyright or some other legal crap (I've heard this means Anet are legally obligated to not read this forum). Thus, sending them stuff to implement is probably going to get ignored.

Well in my moddeling & texture work for 1c: Maddox games.....
any work I/we did as community members was understood as pro bono. We were required to sign a standerd NDA & claim waiver. Not too bad. pretty standerd stuff.

Outside of getting new planes/skins for the sim for everyone.....we got a t-shit, IL-2 Poster....spots on the beta team (closed beta) and an autographed Copy by the Devs. & Producer, and our names/callsigns in the thank you section of the liner. Which we never asked for anything, but was just kinda a thank you for the work we did. But understanably...things probly work differnt here. So nuff bout that.

Some of those stats i sugested might be a little much.
my intention was KISS....but it never hurts to try. (KISS = Keep IT SIMPLE STUPID)
Very basic sword with poision 33% & green flame is really all i'm after.
as for textmod. does no good if i'm the only one that sees it.
no WOW factor at all like the 1st time i saw a VDS. My jaw hit the floor. lol

was a MUST HAVE. I would have sold my soul to Grenth to get one first time i saw one.